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BasketmakerII
Добавлен 30 дек 2010
This is my RUclips channel-I'm a PhD student in Archaeology, and cohost the informational website Basketmakeratlatl.com, which contains lots of information (Although still far from complete!) about the archeologic dart-throwers of the Americas.
That's who I am and what I do! Hope you find something here that's useful.
That's who I am and what I do! Hope you find something here that's useful.
Hafting a Sagaie Point (Paleolithic osseous dart point)
In this video I haft a sagaie point, a Paleolithic European point type fashioned on an osseous rod. There are numerous variations on these points, and foreshafts of antler have been recovered as well. This is only my interpretation of the method, and may not 100% accurate to the originals.
My point is cattle bone, which is inferior to reindeer antler for durability, but more easily obtained by city-dwellers in the Holocene epoch.
My point is cattle bone, which is inferior to reindeer antler for durability, but more easily obtained by city-dwellers in the Holocene epoch.
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Atlatl Combat Experiments: Fending with Sticks
Просмотров 5714 года назад
Another part of the atlatl combat experiments conducted by myself and Devin Pettigrew (Aratlatl on RUclips and Instagram). These experiments test the use of Basketmaker II S-shaped sticks (Also called fending sticks or grooved clubs) to defend against atlatl darts. This research became a poster, given at the 2015 Plains Conference, Iowa City. A publication is currently in the works. This sort o...
Atlatl Combat Experiments: Duels with Shields
Просмотров 2 тыс.4 года назад
In this video, Devin Pettigrew (Aratlatl on RUclips and Instagram) and I participate in some atlatl duels with Basketmaker II style gear. This was part of a larger set of experiments we conducted, in which we tested a range of combat scenarios. We wrote up part of this research in an article, Experiments with Basketmaker II Atlatls as Combat Weapons, which ran in The Missouri Archaeologist (201...
Throwbot (Atlatl throwing robot) Tests
Просмотров 4,5 тыс.4 года назад
In this video I show some test footage of a machine I'm working on, which I call Throwbot, or "Bertha". The device is a work in progress, and still being developed. When it's complete, the machine will be used to cut human error in certain types of experiments with atlatls and darts. This is not the first atlatl throwing machine, but it may well be the second. The first followed a different des...
Straightening Willow Shoots for Darts and Arrows
Просмотров 1 тыс.4 года назад
As the title says! In this video I discuss how I straighten willow, and why a shaft wrench isn't a part of the process. I also straighten a shaft in fabulous "real time".
Channel Intro
Просмотров 3364 года назад
Who I am and what I do in brief. I'm a PhD student in Archaeology at the University of Kansas, and research technology. I'm interested in atlatls and darts, bows and arrows, and lots of other things. I use an experimental approach to understanding the past whenever possible. Since 2011, I have cohosted the informational website Basketmakeratlatl.com, and have written two books on atlatls, Pract...
Peeling Willow with a Willow Brake
Просмотров 2,3 тыс.4 года назад
A video demonstrating how to strip willow bark using a tool called a willow brake. This makes stripping dart shafts quick and easy, even when the bark isn't slipping. If isn't peeling well, stand the shoots in a bucket of water for a few days to rehydrate the bark to help it to peel.
"Basketmakeresque" atlatl darts from pine dowels
Просмотров 6 тыс.9 лет назад
In this video I make an atlatl dart from pine dowels from the hardware store. These darts are made from dowels held together with a scarf joint, which I opt to leave un-wrapped. If you desire you could bind it with fishing line or linen cordage or other material. These darts are not takedowns, although they could easily be made that way, by using brass tubing or other such connectors. The techn...
3 piece composite atlatl dart (Takedown)
Просмотров 1,2 тыс.9 лет назад
Here's another 3 piece takedown atlatl dart, this time made from natural materials rather than dowels/plastic. It's similar in concept to the 3 piece takedowns of the archaic Great Basin, but laid out differently. The use of composite sections (Reed/wood) allows quick and easy construction from very small sections of wood and cane.
Atlatl throwing form
Просмотров 4,2 тыс.9 лет назад
A video about proper form in atlatlry. Obviously different situations lead to variations (As in how far the body must be stooped etc) but this should give a fair overview to the beginner.
Wood choices for atlatls, and heat-bending how-to
Просмотров 2,9 тыс.9 лет назад
Answering a question about what woods to use for atlatls (Really, you can use just about any wood!) and how to perform heat-bending on an atlatl. The technique demonstrated is the simplest-using an open heat source. Generally this works well-it does lead to some discoloration of the wood if you let it, but that should sand off easily if you don't totally char it.
Why do atlatls bend upward?
Просмотров 9899 лет назад
A little off-the-cuff discussion video. Lots of archeologic atlatls have an upward curvature. The distal end of the ventral surface is often elevated relative to the proximal end. (The spur end is higher than the handle end). Why? Pretty simple, really, and (spoiler) it's not to make the atlatl work as a spring. Apologies if this info is way too basic for everyone, but it is a question that com...
Simple takedown javelin with amentum/ankyle
Просмотров 19 тыс.9 лет назад
A medieval type javelin which I have made to come apart into 3 pieces for transport and convenience (Actual medieval javelins were not to my knowledge takeowns, but hey, why not?). It's made of 5/8" dowels socketed together with sleeves of 1/2" CPVC pipe, and a head made from a giant nail. The dowels cost about $2.50 each (2 per javelin) and the nail $0.50. The little bits of CPVC are almost fr...
How old are atlatls?
Просмотров 1,2 тыс.10 лет назад
Hello, pour a snifter of cognac, brush the spaniel hair off your smoking jacket and join me while I discuss the antiquity of atlatls and darts.
Are atlatl darts really springs?
Просмотров 1,7 тыс.10 лет назад
Won't you join me as I address the idea that atlatl darts function as energy storage devices, pushing themselves away from atlatls at high speeds?
1/2" Diameter 3 piece takedown dart
Просмотров 1,3 тыс.10 лет назад
1/2" Diameter 3 piece takedown dart
Making a takedown dart with dowels, NSF pipe and a pex pile
Просмотров 2,1 тыс.10 лет назад
Making a takedown dart with dowels, NSF pipe and a pex pile
Simple takedown atlatl dart, NSF pipe connector and dowels
Просмотров 2,8 тыс.10 лет назад
Simple takedown atlatl dart, NSF pipe connector and dowels
PEX Mesoamerican style atlatl fingerloops
Просмотров 79510 лет назад
PEX Mesoamerican style atlatl fingerloops
Handleless index fingerloop atlatls
Просмотров 2,6 тыс.11 лет назад
Handleless index fingerloop atlatls
Using Atlatl Weights for System Balance
Просмотров 15 тыс.11 лет назад
Using Atlatl Weights for System Balance
My Simple Adjustable Atlatl Fingerloops
Просмотров 2,5 тыс.11 лет назад
My Simple Adjustable Atlatl Fingerloops
Making SDC style BMII atlatl fingerloops
Просмотров 6 тыс.11 лет назад
Making SDC style BMII atlatl fingerloops
Making a blade with Gallifreyan tools
Просмотров 49611 лет назад
Making a blade with Gallifreyan tools
Nice - first time I’ve seen a mechanism like this so some truly practical and applicable (at least in my world) knowledge has been shared. Thank you
🐟🐠😅right.. lol
Great video, thanks 👍
Mind you, I'm not a scientist, but a skeptic of them. This said: A 5 lb fiberglass pole can fling a man 3 feet higher than a metal one. When they switched to fiberglass the records were being broken so fast it was ridiculous. It seems there must be alot of power in a 6 lb pole to fling a 170 lb man that much higher. But I have a feeling if you did that experiment with a fiberglass pole vault pole THE SAME THING WOULD HAPPEN. The speed of the atlatl behind the dart and the pole vaulters weight perform the same function, keep energy efficiently directed in ONE direction (up for the vaulter, forward for the atlatl. In your way the energy is directed FROM THE CENTER of gravity in two directions: upward AND downward. If it were springing off the ground efficiently it wouldn't be so noisy. Furthermore, we can see it flexes quite energetically but goes 0 centimeters...doesn't that seem strange to you? I like this effort and maybe you're right. But it seems overly simplistic to me....
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing! A slow but easy method that was used in Greece in the past was to coppice the willow (or other wood) in the end of winter and keep it tied in bundles so that the tip and bottom of each stick always face on the same direction in the same bundle. Obviously the tip of the stick was never cut to length to clearly tell tip from bottom. Right before spring starts to set in (in South Greece this point in time is marked by the flowering of almond trees) the bundles are untied and each stick is planted in the ground as if to plant it for producing new plants. This was usually done in the south side of walls running roughly east to west for optimum sun exposure. Once the stick start to show signs of life (sap running through the bark) they are pulled out of the soil and debarked by a lengthwise split with a knife followed by hand-peeling.
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Pretty cool
Thank you for sharing this video and your experience. Were these fresh stems? I'm assuming that you didn't find it worthwhile to presoak the willow before hand. Do you think soaking would be necessary for sry stems? It looks like the tool was very effective for your set up.
Tanks!Your best 👍
Dude!!
Awesome way to carry darts! Definitely incorporating this method in my experimental archaeology class!
Good demonstration.
That was amazing to watch. Very insightful. Thanks for teaching me something!
Very nice. What materials were used to make this?
Whts it like shooting 4 ft darts
Pretty Cool!
These darts don’t appear to be thrown with much force or speed. Would it be reasonable to assume a more skilled thrower might make for a larger threat. Additionally, I’ve got some experience throwing English War Bow arrows and have found that I could get some pretty impressive speed out of them. I surmise that war darts for spear throwers might be more effective with shorter, lighter darts at point blank range like the video shows. Longer darts would obviously be needed for longer range throws. Though that would be difficult to test considering boffer tips are heavy.
Good technique, your darts are flying fast.
Almost a decade later this was very beneficial for me. Thanks.
The sticks could have been(rabbit sticks) throwing sticks. To hunt small game rather than using your larger hunting darts which could be over kill.
Did you actually nail it on your first try? Super impressive! 🙌 Have you tried spearing some fish?
I like the quik-haflting technique, it's quick and easy if your not building anything super substantial it should work fine.
I made this exact atlatl. I started yesterday and finished it today. I used the same materials and methods by watching the video. It turned out perfect. Great video, thank you!
Out of curiosity, if you were using an atlatl and a buckler as a skirmisher, how many darts do you think you could reasonably carry?
Hey man awesome build and throw!, I'm into paracord but I'm really at a loss as to how you tie the amentum and use it.
it would be very useful in that you're not fighting alone and having fewer darts whizzing past you and your friends is a good thing. also allows quicker recovery of darts to throw back
What type of bark strips did you use for wrapping around the wood base stick holding the stone gouge for making the end divot?
Great idea! Do the spliced ends still remain strong? Thanks for posting.
This reminds me of Dwight and mose schrute
I think atlatls are the ideal skirmishing weapon
I see short bows with light fast arrows as ideal as well.
I checked your channel on a whim and you are back! you have been missed.
I think this demonstration misses the principles of spring/mass/damper systems and power transfer. Tuning the mass of the atlatl to the individual characteristics of the user and the dart results in proper impedance match and maximum power transfer. In fact these tuning masses are commonly found and still used. The spring effect of the dart is just part of this overall system. The impulse speed (throw) is very important and ideally matches the resonant frequency of the dart and the user’s preferences for an optimum throw. This demonstration misses all that, but does show that common references to spring effect are probably way over simplified.
Primitive technology working it's bread magic!
I just love stone axes so much
Justin, great video! I just went and got some dowels and couplers. I found them at Lowe’s after a search. What about making a foreshaft out of a coupler and a piece of fiberglass rod? The 3/8” rod I have is a little small, but I was going to add some masking tape as a bushing to make it fit.
Thanks for sharing that! It's a great alternative to the metal willow brakes!
hey, cool video, could you please upload more videos on fingerloop making?
Larping just got more interesting
Good to see you back. Looking forward to the videos!
Thanks, I appreciate it!
So basically you have poor aim, too poor to test the theory?
Hi Christ, Normally I don’t engage with trolls, but your concern is valid, and for the benefit of others reading these comments, I’ll reply. People can be trained to do any number of amazing physical feats, like deflecting arrows with swords and things of that nature. But people don’t argue that swords were developed for that purpose. These tests weren’t to see if you could train someone up to do this effectively (I’m sure you could), the test is to see if it’s likely that this form would have been dictated by that function, for which other, simpler explanations exist. Without experiments like this, in which we’re confident enough to do things poorly and be publicly judged by people for it, we can’t advance knowledge about technology. Best, -Justin
What is the length and weight of your atlatl
Hi Joseph, it depends, I don't just use one. My darts vary in weight in from about 80 grams up to about 170 grams and my atlatls are usually somewhere between 90 and 120 grams, somewhere in that range, and are between 19" long to about 27" long.
Great demo for sure!
Great demo for sure!
Are you gonna do a shield penetration test with stone points? That could slow the use of the shield a bit when it if full of darts😜
Lol. Yes of course it would, and they also might poke through into your arm. But darts aren't javelins, they're pretty small diameter. If you had say, 3 Basketmaker darts sticking out of your shield and whacked them with your fist, they would all break across the haft, leaving the point or point tips in the shield. These darts aren't heavy enough to have good armor piercing ability, and stone is brittle. Even if the dart was all wood, it would still only be ~1/2" diameter, easy to break off. I may do something with shield/armor penetration at some point in the future, but all I was interested here was if you can react fast enough to effectively intercept archaeologically derived darts.
According to Spanish accounts, atlatl darts penetrated very well. I'd be curious to see what a stone and a steel dart head would do.
That’s good news!
It’s good to see you back. You were missed.
Thanks Frank, I appreciate it! Moving forward, I hope to keep things updated better.
Hit to the balls was pure gold!))))
I wonder is surgical tubing would work better? How do you match it to the force a human has? Very interesting idea.
Hi Ron, I tried rubber as well. I also built a giant slingshot calibrated for adjustable power levels, but there were some disadvantages. The biggest was that the material just doesn't store the energy as efficiently as a steel spring, so the power stroke (and therefore the arm behind the pivot) has to be longer. Using metal springs lets the machine be more compact, and portable, which is important to be able to move it around easily. To match human power with something like this, my approach is to use a spring with greater energy storage than an atlatl throw when stretched the required length and let up tension until the velocity of the darts matches human throws when checked by a radar gun.
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I’m looking forward to more!